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有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Fans, Keith, is kind enough to gather all the complains towards to quality of the Live in Concert 2005 DVD. He has already written a letter to Gold Label, and he is going to file a complain to Consumer Council, IFPI and CASH.
Read below to read about Keith’s action and his letter to Gold Label.
If anyone has any complain on this DVD set, please write your idea below. Keith’ll group all the complains into the letter. Please try to state CLEARLY where can you find the problems on the discs (which chapter, from what time to what time). Please kindly remember, we might not get an answer afterall, but I hope this complain can, at least, reflect our concern(s) in the current and future products.
Related Link:
AV100fun.com
Written by Keith Chan
On Feb 15th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
John, thanks for your support!
I already email a complain letter to Glod-Label.
I’ll email and/or mail the complain letter to the following companies/organizations.
If anyone has any complain on this DVD set, please write your idea here. I’ll group all the complains to the letter. You may need to state clearly where can you find the problems on the discs (which chapter, from what time to what time).
Gold Label:
www.gold-label.com.hk
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Written by Keith Chan
On Feb 15th, 2006 at 2:48 pm
The following is the letter I emailed to Gold-Label (I cut my mobile number here, you can email me if needed). Everyone is welcome to try the following chapters, see what I said is true or not.
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有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會2005 LIVE KARAOKE DVD†的投訴。
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Disc 1, Chapter 9, 0:52-0:56 (Dancer å‹•ä½œèµ·æ ¼)
Disc 2, Chapter 7, 0:00-0:02 (é–ƒå…‰æ™‚èµ·æ ¼)
Disc 2, Chapter 8, 1:14-1:30 (é–ƒå…‰æ™‚èµ·æ ¼)
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2006年2月11日
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
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2006年2月20日
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Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Hi Keith and John,
Wondered if you have heard from the IFPI? I just received a reply email from them, telling me to contact Gold-Label, Mr. Marco Siu regarding to the complain on Sandy 05 Live concert DVD. They have given me his phone number. If you have already contact Mr. Marco Siu, then I will leave it to you since you have gathered other fans complains toward this matter. By the way, if you need his phone number, please let me know.
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
1."02演唱会"我有三个版本,其ä¸ä¸€ä¸ªæ˜¯é¦™æ¸¯ç”Ÿäº§çš„LIVE版本。
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Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Thanks you! Bugbug!
I would like to know more about what you did with IFPI. Please contact me at
digitalkeith
Also, Glod-Label has no any reply yet. Hope IFPI can do something on this issue.
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
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Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
I just call Marco Siu who is the salesman of Gold-Label. He said they had a meeting with the DVD production team include the technical staffs. He claim that the production of this DVD has no problem. He want to invite the picky complainants (he said "有些投訴者比較挑剔") to go to the office and the technical staffs will explain the quality of this DVD.
He is pleased to let people visit their office and they can explain what they did. Anyone is interested to go can leave a message here or email me at digitalkeith
I would like to bring some other DVD, like Joey's concert DVD (from EEG), to compare with "夜色無邊". Without comparison, some people accept the quality. With comparison, at least Gold-Label knows why people complain.
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
金牌娛樂的回應與安排
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Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
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Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
金牌娛樂今晚(27/2)派出兩å代表清楚解釋了這隻DVDçš„è³ªç´ å•題,亦承諾會作出書é¢å›žæ‡‰ã€‚希望金牌娛樂盡快在這討論å€è§£é‡‹ï¼Œä»¤å¤§å®¶ä¹Ÿæ¸…楚明白å•é¡Œçš„æ‰€åœ¨èˆ‡é‡‘ç‰Œå¨›æ¨‚çš„ç«‹å ´ã€‚
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Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Thank you Keith for everything you have done. I hope they understand we are not trying to give Gold Label a hard time, but we do have expectations. Thank you again, and I hope they can give us some improved products in the future.
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Hey Keith (you are great!)
I just left a message about the disappointment in Terence's website (www.sandyandme.com). How did it go tonite at Gold Label?
Really wanted to know the outcome!
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
剛剛收到金牌娛樂的è¯çµ¡äººå¯„了email給我。她æ£èˆ‡æŠ€è¡“人員跟進有關解釋的事。希望大家很快便明白這次製作的技術細節。
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Keith,
thanks a lot for your hard working fighting for consumer right.
i didn't attend the meeting on Monday. I have been there few weeks ago and they told me they can change me with a good DVD.
However, when I arrived, the guy told me the new one is no difference.
therefore, i don't want to go to gold label anymore.....
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
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Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Keith,
Thanks very much for everything u did.
Please let us know if any reply from Gold Label!
Re: 有關 “林憶蓮 夜色無邊演唱會 DVD†投訴
Dear all,
Gold-Label offical explanation has been released:
http://www.gold-label.com.hk/news_detai … &id=40
You may not understand why "multi-angle" made the video quality dropped by only reading the above explanation. But you can read the Blog.
The Blog below is very good. You have enough information to judge is it some fans are too picky or the company is finding some excuses.
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/lefek&article_id=4158601
I have one additional opinion to add. I found that Universal also made multi-angle Karaoke DVD for their singers like Alan Tam, æŽå…‹å‹¤, Chris Wong, etc. (is è‰èœ¢ 2005 concert made by Universal?) They used 3 discs for around 30 songs but Gold-Label used 2 discs only for Sandy. I think if 2 discs can give us a good video quality, Universal will not used 3 discs.
At last, I would like to thank everyone who support this complaint! Thank you very much!
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